Stanley Tookie Williams has been put to death despite many of his supporters who rallied to get him clemency because of his supposed redemption. I think it’s great if a person on death row can spend that time helping other people to not go down the same path that they did. Does that mean they should then get their sentence reduced to life not death. No. Their victims didn’t get a chance to “do some good” to save their life so why should the person responsible for taking their life get treated any better. And I think that in many instances for criminals that get the death penalty they should not be waiting 13 years taking up space in our all ready crowded jails. They should go straight to death row and be executed in a timely manner (less then a year). A lot of Americans seem to value the life of the criminal more then the life of the victim. And I have heard many that are against the death penalty argue that sometimes during the lethal injections they can not find the vein and have to continue sticking the prisoner with the needle and that is cruel and inhuman. Are you kidding me, lets forget the fact for a moment that the person getting the needle in their arm is a convicted cold blooded killer. Every time I go to the hospital to have blood work done I sit there for 5 minutes getting poked by the needle cause they can never find a vein. Even when they tried to put an IV in it took the nurse 11 tries before she was able to get it in. I guess it’s not inhuman and cruel if it happens to law abiding citizens that haven’t murder innocent people.
And for some reason there are a lot of non Christians that like to use the argument that Christians shouldn’t be for the death penalty cause God was against it. I guess they have never heard of The Wraith of God or Vengeful God. So for anyone that cares to know here are some snippets from The Bible that support death penalty.
Genesis 9:6: “Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.”
Exodus 21:12 says, “He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.”
Revelation 13:10 says, “He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.”
If I screwed up the 3 verses listed above please let me know.
KathyDecember 13, 2005 at 4:31 pm
I too think if the death penalty is sentenced, the guy shouldn’t be sitting around for years. THAT I think is inhumane…making a guy sit around waiting to die.
As for the needle thing, everyone gets stuck with needles several times. Why? Because nurses nowadays can’t seem to be able to find veins. Guys being put to death my lethal injection and getting poked by the needled multiple times are in the same boat most other people are in when they have to get a needle.
Orikinla OsinachiDecember 15, 2005 at 1:05 pm
Stanley Tookie Williams is dead. Finis.
I am not ruled by emotions, but by good rational reasons.
If God is against the Death Penalty, there will be No Hell.
PeteDecember 18, 2005 at 2:16 pm
The problem is what if someone is innocent? George Ryan commuted something like 160 death sentences in IL due to very real doubts about guilt and criminal procedures. The application of the death penalty in the US is far too random and biased against minorities.
It is far better to let someone reflect on the nature of their crimes for 40-50 years than to sentence them to death. The other point that I would make is that your arguments from the Bible in favor of the death penalty are not relevant under the constitution because of the establishment clause of the first amendment. In any event there are just as many or more biblical verses that would argue for mercy and forgiveness.
One of the strongest arguments that I can make against the death penalty is that the states without a death penalty statute tend to have much lower rates of violent crime. The death penalty is not an effectiver deterrent.
PeteDecember 18, 2005 at 5:50 pm
December 14, 2005
Songs From The Commons #8 – This One’s For Tookie Williams
This went up Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005.
Songs From The Commons #8
Lots of great music from teru’s website — including a mix from teru himself of a mashup of two other remixes.
This Oneâ€™s For Tookie Williams
No Business As Usual This Show – A Man Imprisoned by the State of California Has Been Put To Death By that same state, and I just want to take a moment to think about it.
It happened around 12:30 am this morning- Dec 13, 2006. I donâ€™t like to be reminded that weâ€™re living in a police state, but things like state-sanctioned executions make it all too crystal clear.
Will we find out months or years from now that Tookie was innocent? Weâ€™re learning that innocent people are convicted all the time. It could happen to you or me, but research has proven definitively that itâ€™s much more likely to happen to you if your an african american male.
And what if he was guilty after all? Is he arguably rehabilitated? Or is rehabilitation just a lie?
However you slice it, it leaves me sad. And thinking.
Whether youâ€™re for or against the death penalty, I think you will agree that itâ€™s important that we all think long and hard about what happened today.
Posted by Lisa at December 14, 2005 12:42 PM